New Thin Trbo Prep

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:17 am

2012-03-08
Dreamhost problems.... pics will back soon as I get to computer

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:54 am

want moar?

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:20 am

not trbo, but looks like the evloution of a HT into a LTE cell phone

marcosorourke · Post by **marcosorourke** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:46 am

Wow! When will those be available?

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:58 pm

FEB20-21

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:58 pm

Does anyone here work for motorola ? If so can they please PM me asap?

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:55 am

Removed by request.

wiscomm · Post by **wiscomm** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:50 am

Embargo lifted.

Introducing the new MotoTRBO SL 7550 and XPR 5550 -

http://mediacenter.motorolasolutions.co ... -37c6.aspx

Thoughts?

Craig

marcosorourke · Post by **marcosorourke** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:18 am

I showed my boss and he wants to order some today (if we could)!

marcosorourke · Post by **marcosorourke** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:31 am

I did notice that it only talks about digital in the literature... I'm guessing that this little radio can't do analog?

Dorf411 · Post by **Dorf411** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:59 am

MSRP: $1,165.00 Ouch!

Tom in D.C. · Post by **Tom in D.C.** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:57 pm

FM and DMR are clearly mentioned in the specs:

"The XPR 5000 Series is a fully-featured analog and digital mobile radio family that transforms the enterprise by delivering exceptional voice and data..."

marcosorourke · Post by **marcosorourke** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:01 pm

Sorry I wasn't specific... Yes you're right the XPR 5000 series can do analog. I was referring to the SL7550 that doesn't look like it can do analog.

Post by **escomm** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:07 pm

I will have these for about $700/ea. Standard accessory package, no options at this point except to add a bluetooth or surveillance kit. UHF only for now.

KitN1MCC · Post by **KitN1MCC** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:42 pm

what about the new fancy mobile

Dorf411 · Post by **Dorf411** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:42 pm

Per the Price Book

XPR 5550 UHF/40W MSRP: $998 Fancy w/color display
XPR 5350 UHF/40W MSRP: $832 32Ch Numeric display

mr.syntrx · Post by **mr.syntrx** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:15 am

No GPS I assume, but does it have Enhanced Privacy?

wiscomm · Post by **wiscomm** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:54 pm

MOL posted a nice comparison chart today. Here is a PDF of that document.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/82370190/MOTO ... rix-Feb-12

Craig

Post by **GoMoto** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:38 pm

The SL Series does not support GPS, but it does support Basic & Enhanced Privacy.

Post by **escomm** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:20 pm

Some key features:

1000 channel capacity
2 watt transmit
UHF only (403-470MHz)

And here is going to be the deal breaker for a lot of people: Per the catalog, analog conventional is not supported

wiscomm · Post by **wiscomm** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:15 am

Based on the pricing on the SL-Series, quite frankly they are off the rocker on that radio. Seriously a $1000 List / $700 Street.

Here me out on this.

How much technology is in this radio?
2 watt RF?
a $25 cell phone battery BT60/BT90?
a single mode digital radio?
sure it has a color display, but doesn't your cell phone? How much does that really cost?
I know the radio is tough and all, dropping ball bearings on it and putting it under a sprinkler. But real world life expectancy for commercial clients is likely 5 years. How often do you swap out your cell phone?

Now I hate to use the "cell phone" comparison, but the first few clients I have shown this product to that's the first thing they mention. Many of our hospitality clients balk on $250 radio, and literally choke when you pitch a $500 radio. This market simply does not have the funds to equip every housekeeper and janitor with a $800 radio. Not enough Peabody Hotels around to support this radio.

This SL-Series would have been an out of the park home run if street priced in the $400 range. Everyone makes money.

Again, just my $.02 - Craig
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the above views are my personal, not of my company. This is the "business" case for the radio, not the amateur radio scenarios. The ham guys will start seeing these later this year on eBay when they start getting lifted from various hotels maid carts.

Post by **bw18** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:51 pm

Here in the UK we are loking at 525 GBP, which for us is the same price as a DP3601 (GPS enabled).

I really like the style and appearance of the radio and think it will do well in the executive market in the UK. A large percentage of TRBO users in the UK are made up of what we call 'shopwatch schemes'. These schemes provide a radio link for shops/stores in towns and cities connecting them to the CCTV control room and all of the other stores on the scheme to share intelligence on local shoplifters etc... I cannot see many schemes using this radio, maybe the scheme managers, but certainly not the general user.

As per other peoples concerns the 2 watt output is a worry, but with a well designed infrastructure I cant see this being an issue. DMO/back-to-back could be interesting, but from the dealers I have spoken to in the UK they are reporting good DMO coverage all things considered.

Again not having analogue is an issue, however over here I don't know of more than half a dozen mixed mode systems- even those are half way through the change over, so in reality its not a massive issue (in my opinion).

I think only time will tell, but i beleive this will be a well welcomed addition to the TRBO series over here!

marcosorourke · Post by **marcosorourke** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:30 pm

We just received our radios today and will be testing them extensively on Monday. Initial impressions are that these units are amazing. There are a couple of bugs, but that may be just from lack of understanding of some of the features.

rc50won · Post by **rc50won** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:32 pm

Keep us updated on your results. I have one coming later this week. Marshall

marcosorourke wrote:We just received our radios today and will be testing them extensively on Monday. Initial impressions are that these units are amazing. There are a couple of bugs, but that may be just from lack of understanding of some of the features.

JRayfield · Post by **JRayfield** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:47 pm

We receive our demo kit the day before yesterday. I haven't had much time to play around with them yet, but so far, I'm impressed.

As to the cost, yes, they're not 'cheap'. But, we have hotels where we've sold EX500's, because the management (the 'suits') didn't want to carry a larger portable (even like the CP200's, which are used by maintenance and housekeeping in these same hotels). The price of the SL is in line with the EX-series radios, so I don't see a problem with this. Sure, some end users don't want to spend more than $250 on any 'two-way radio', but that's because two-way radio has become a 'commodity', and they compare all "two-way radios" to cheap FRS radios at Wal-Mart. MOTOTRBO is not just a 'two-way radio'. End users who understand that, and who want to take advantage of the 'extended' capabilities of MOTOTRBO, are willing to pay more to get more than just a "two-way radio system".

John Rayfield, Jr. CETma
Rayfield Communications

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:31 pm

my webhost is having connection issues so if these pics dont load - check back later they will soon
just got the sl7550 in the mail - didnt plan on buying this but you know how it goes...
a few things first - the radio comes with a belt clip

yeah thats how we roll

unboxing
+1 to sandys comunication for a nice fast transaction

radio looked like it came free in the box?

battery

charger

standard micro USB 850ma

rear with battery removed

battery door with locking mechanisim

look niceee

how it sits in the belt clip...

you can NOT flip it around so the display is not exposed ! :/

o yeah. dont have to buy 100$ programming cable for this radio reason #1

what it looks like when off and plugged in

bootup - makes the same tones as the 6550

do not hold near ear! LOL

main screen

heres a few menu pics - i left some out
main menu

contacts

settings

you dont have to buy 100$ programming cable for this radio reason #2

MAKE SURE YOU DISABLE ARS ON SLOT 1

j/k

bad = no analog, no gps, 2w output, beltclip does not reverse so screen not exposed
good = no analog, sexier then hell, bluetooth, fpp, microusb

MSS-Dave · Post by **MSS-Dave** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:14 pm

Gopher....

Thanks! Great pictures, especially of the human belt clip. Nice looking radio also....

Dave

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:43 pm

No problem... a few more things .. normal 5v USB will not charge. Motorola chager is doing something to the data pins I think. FPP is kinda useless - no way to enter frequency. Might have settings wrong but don't think so.
Also every-time a call is received the display back-light turns on. good to see whos talking, but should be able to deactivate to save battery.

Pump3 · Post by **Pump3** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:01 pm

Little birdy tells me that the first quarter of 2013 will see Vertex releasing their own Mototrbo line, based on the VX-450 series platform.......interesting

Post by **alex** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:32 pm

Stop the clock...

FPP?

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:15 pm

FPP - EVERYTHING BUT FREQUENCY. not sure why, bug or by design

Tom in D.C. · Post by **Tom in D.C.** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:37 pm

No FPP by design, as related to changing frequency, due to FCC restrictions on Part 90 radios for non-Federal use. Been in effect for many years.

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:50 pm

from the CPS help - maybe it was an option and was removed - not sure

Mode (Front Panel Programming)
Configures the level of access for the Front Panel Programming (FPP) operation. The FPP feature lets the user change certain codeplug settings directly from the radio when not having a CPS, e.g. when the user is on the field.

Options
Disabled The FPP feature is disabled.
User The user can access codeplug parameters categorized as "Unprotected" like tone settings.
Dealer The user can access codeplug parameters categorized as “Unprotected" like tone settings as well as "Protected" like frequencies.

rc50won · Post by **rc50won** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:54 am

Got mine on the 7th. Has anyone found a micro USB mobile charger that works? Non Motorola stuff gives an on screen error that the charger is not compatible. I ordered a couple of BT90's and a separate charger from Amazon.

Marshall

marcosorourke · Post by **marcosorourke** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:48 am

It has something to do with the current. An iPad charger worked on charging the SL7550.

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:55 am

Tried my high power g-tab charger with standard micro USB cable. 2000mah on this bad boy.. will no charge...

marcosorourke · Post by **marcosorourke** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:00 am

Interesting... I'll try again this afternoon with my iPad charger and see. I used the programming cable to connect the radio to the charger so that may have been something Motorola did special.

marcosorourke · Post by **marcosorourke** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:07 pm

Ok we did an experiment today using a Jawbone USB charger and used a "Realtek" adapter kit to go to micro USB. It charged the radio no problem.

Post by **bw18** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:08 am

I got my SL4000 yesterday... FPP is also locked down here in the UK (EMEA), not quite sure why we have been 'locked down', but even using the 'dealer' setting I can only access as already described and nothing more.

RFguy · Post by **RFguy** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:36 pm

Hmmm, so I get my first SL-7550. Take it out of the box, install the battery and drop it in the bank charger. The charger light flashes green, then nothing. Pull the radio out and drop it in again. A flash of green, then nothing.

Turns out (after reading the book) that if you put a radio with a battery that's not discharged, there is no indication on the charger (besides the momentary flash of green). The charger has a legend that shows charging as red, flashing green as almost charged, solid green as charged.

The radio does have a charge level indicator on the display, but a typical radio user generally glances at the charger to see if the light is green.

Now, if you put just the battery in the charger, it does go red and indicates that the battery is charging.

So what does a customer think when he puts his radios in the charger and the charger doesn't light.

I'm confused

gopher · Post by **gopher** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:51 am

Bank Charger???!!! pics plz?
Is the radio ON when you drop it in the charger? if so maybe its only designed to charge the battery when the radio is off to extened the life??
If the radio is OFF - and it still does not light up sounds like a bug.

i ended getting this charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003XO ... 00_details
and these batteries
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002N8 ... 00_details
5 batteries and a charger all for 27$ !!

if it was a 6550 that would be $$$$$$

wiscomm · Post by **wiscomm** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:49 am

gopher wrote:Bank Charger???!!! pics plz?

Sorry for the shameless plug. SL-Series Gang: http://shopwiscomm.com/PMLN5916A-PMLN59 ... 08702.aspx

We have sold about a half dozen of these, oddly all to European customers.

Craig

rc50won · Post by **rc50won** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:05 am

I went with this Universal Charger from Lenmar. Model BCUNI3.

http://tinyurl.com/6vwgavs

Marshall