Radio Tower Lease Rates

[Jim202]

I guess no one on the board here leases towers.

Just trying to get a feel what the rental rates are before a Public Safety agency contacts for space on a rental tower for their radio system coverage it needs.

Jim

[Frau]

Hi,

I have a government shop that both leases towers from others and provides leasing of towers we own and manage. But it's in Canada.

Rates tend to vary depending upon where the tower is (higher rates in populous urban areas...less so in rural or remote...unless you have a unique site and the only one in a given area).

Can you provide a few more particulars about the site?

Thx

[tsunami_australia]

Frau is on the mark here, without details on demographics it's impossible to guesstimate.

[Jim202]

Tower is located in a very rural area.

Need to figure a couple of 6 foot microwave dishes with coned radomes, using 137 waveguide.

3 stick antennas for 700 MHz. using 1 5/8 coax.

Jim

[Bill_G]

We own and/or manage a lot of sites up and down the west coast and throughout the PNW. I put the question to our sites dept. They said "it depends" meaning there is no one size fits all answer.

[Jim202]

We own and/or manage a lot of sites up and down the west coast and throughout the PNW. I put the question to our sites dept. They said "it depends" meaning there is no one size fits all answer.

I know this is a hard to answer question. But it doesn't seem to hard to say for on the average the charge per foot up the tower for 1 5/8 coax, plan on looking at $x.xx as a ball park. Same thing for microwave dishes. In the past it seemed to go with the size of the dish as a multiplier to a footage up the tower.

The shelter footprint is a whole different thing. On this I agree that location is the steering factor.

Any other comments on this subject?

Jim

[escomm]

Don't go into an American Tower site because the whole world already knows the access code??

[Jim202]

Don't go into an American Tower site because the whole world already knows the access code??

The same thing with Crown Castle. They use the same code country wide.

Jim

[Bill_G]

Don't go into an American Tower site because the whole world already knows the access code??

Not up here. Every site has a different key. Most have the same padlock on the gate, but you need a key to enter the building, and a different key to access the tower compound. But! A common key is like having a common code.

[tsunami_australia]

Better in some regards, the gate to get to one of our local prominent spots has something like 18+ padlocks on it, the chain itself is almost gone to make way for a chain of padlocks.

[Bill_G]

Better in some regards, the gate to get to one of our local prominent spots has something like 18+ padlocks on it, the chain itself is almost gone to make way for a chain of padlocks.

We have those gates too. You have to be part weight lifter to heft the thing, part psychic to find your lock, and part magician to thread it in and out of the gate.

[resqroz]

American Tower has also pulled generators out of many of their sites and are poor at maintaining the ones that are still there.

[Jim202]

American Tower has also pulled generators out of many of their sites and are poor at maintaining the ones that are still there.

Poor maintenance is getting to be common around the country. Yet those site owners keep jacking up the rent each year. If those that were leasing added a maintenance statement to their contract about if the site wasn't maintained, the rent would be ignored for that month, it might get some attention. On the other hand, many of the renters don't give a hoot about the site conditions.

Simple was to solve it is to just call the fire marshal and let them site the facility owner for creating a fire hazard. Don't be the bad guy, be the solution solver.

As for generators being pulled by American tower, guess that would depend on what your lease said. If American had it in their lease that they would supply emergency power, I don't see how they could take them out. On the other hand, if they were smart, there would not have been any mention of emergency power mentioned in the lease.

Jim

[tsunami_australia]

American Tower has also pulled generators out of many of their sites and are poor at maintaining the ones that are still there.

Yay so when the :o hits the fan, the power has died and you REALLY need that radio network there is nothing. BRILLIANT!

[Bill_G]

American Tower has also pulled generators out of many of their sites and are poor at maintaining the ones that are still there.

In their defense, the LMR biz is dying, they have few tenants, and their costs are not going down. They have several primo sites here where the only tenant is public safety, and they have shifted the cost of maintaining the backup gen to the agency. Why these sites haven't exchanged ownership is beyond me.

[KE7JFF]

Some of those generators as I heard thru the grapevine that American Tower were done for service due to the high operating hours on them.