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jcobb

Look, it's real simple - just like when CB went from 23 channels to 40 channels.

Lots of folks were told that they had to have a second antenna on the vehicle and attached to the CB so they could use the newer, higher frequencies....

Sort of like that.

Just sayin'......

Jack

jcobb

Sorry - just so busy I haven't gotten out that way in a long time. You need to see what the vendors come up with to be able to be used on the Moto system you guys are putting in at the state level. We haven't had any to test over here, but maybe that will change in the not-to-distant future. We just...

jcobb

Not sure where I read it, but I do recall reading the Feds had to give permission to any non-Fed in order for them to be able to buy one Strange you should think that. Thales is coming to meet with me (again), and I'm no Fed. They met with me and other Public Safety groups when they were coming up ...

jcobb

Frak! Now I need to order a boat-load of TDMA antennas.....

Just when I thought I had everything under control.

Just sayin'

Jack

jcobb

How much trouble would it be to swap out the drawer unit and control head from the leaving unit to the incoming one? Take less time and energy than reprogramming, etc. I don't have any O5 heads in my fleet, but I understand that they are "serialized" to the drawer unit. Maybe someone could...

jcobb

spectra 9000

I don't think there is a Spectra 9000. Isn't it the accessories, ie siren/PA, control head, etc., labeled "9000". Never saw a Spectra with 9000 in the name/label/documents.

No Syntor XX either.

Just sayin'.....

jcobb

jcobb

A billion here, a billion there...

Pretty soon you're talking real money.

Jack

jcobb

Don't. Even. Try.

The system admin. is looking for stuff just like that. He'd love to brick your radio.

Jack

jcobb

Could be on some, Will, but I know that two different era mics wouldn't work in the Spectra mic case, or versa vice... Don't remember now exactly which ones, but I do know I was trying to use a Motorola-produced red mic to use the Spectra 1051 mic guts, and they wouldn't fit. So I guess your milage ...

jcobb

Standard color for Mocom 10 mobiles...

I have tried to use some 'special' color mic casings on my Spectras, but the innards don't fit. Could probably do some dremmeling, but not worth the time/effort.

Jack

jcobb

Pretty sure I know I have one. Do you have a service monitor or some method for injecting an on-frequency signal at varying levels? You can tune with a VTVM, but need an on-frequency signal to do so.

Of course, you also would want some way to send the 'tones' too.

Jack

jcobb

I have several manuals (some place) for Alert Monitors. I seem to recall a lo-band one. If I can find it, I will loan it to you.

Jack

jcobb

Simply put - yes, you are correct. That's why we don't put scan in our system radios.

Jack

jcobb

Try this: http://batboard.batlabs.com/viewtopic.php?t=46873

Jack

jcobb

Hello, The military has plenty of fuel and I'm sure they are suppling it as needed. On another note there is a web broadcast of the operations in the effect areas if anyone is interested. http://stfunoob.com/nola/scanner.pls They are rebroadcasting the following Left Channel 123.00000 Air to Air 12...

jcobb

Thanks. Going somewhere in the field around Gulfport MS. Field ops/comm. I have to bring with me MREs and water, tent, etc. I guess it's not all set up yet.

This is going to be a long one...

Jack

jcobb

I guess I'll find out when I get down there tomorrow...

Jack

jcobb

Larsen NMO27

Jack

jcobb

Is it always the same portables, and/or can you track it to any particular Quantar?

Jack

jcobb

IIRC, the duplexers in them are 152-157 split. Probably won't work on ham. And I believe that the "touchtone" dial on the front is not DTMF. It just tells the unit what digits to send.

YMMV (CRS memory in effect)

Jack

jcobb

Have you tried http://www.batlabs.com/astromob.html ?

Jack

jcobb

kb0nly wrote:Correct. And i have taken a Siren and a VRS and combined them. Has anyone else tried that?

Is the shield thing-a-ma-jiggy still available from Moto? Or did you
make your own?

Jack

jcobb

I guess I'd like to speak for myself, thank you, and I have put my money where my mouth is, and I own and operate a fairly large Motorola P25 system. IMHO, I do not believe Motorola has over priced their P25 gear at all. I'm totally satisfied with the price and performance, as well as the excellent...

jcobb

If Motorola's P25 equipment is "over priced," then how come Icom's (inferior) P25 junk is a good 40%, or more, HIGHER than Motorola's P25 prices? Does this mean that Motorola's P25 gear is "over priced," and therefore Icom is "Ultra over priced?" It could be - or, they...

jcobb

"They are not interested." And, you can't blame them. Like all entrepreneurs, Motorola has one, and only one, moral obligation as a firm in a capitalistic marketplace: to MAXIMIZE profits. Remember, Motorola is not a philanthropist, so it is not their responsibility to make firemen happy ...

jcobb

Talked to a moto guy at APCO, and complained about the pricing of equipment vis-a-vis the volunteer FF, etc. He said that that "was not their market", and that's why the price was not lower. If every volunteer FF, SAR, etc., person bought a radio, it would not come close to the value of 1 ...

jcobb

Get a Spectra siren cable, and cut the power and speaker leads off of it.... Jack Seriously? The siren and VRS cables have the same pinout, with the exception that the speaker and power leads are not used for the VRS? Interesting... Yeppers. Moto screwed up - didn't make a different, expensive cabl...

jcobb

Get a Spectra siren cable, and cut the power and speaker leads off of it....

Jack

jcobb

You might go back and search on here - I remember some items about this. Seems like moto's sirens are like cars - don't want to get one built on Friday, or the Monday after a holiday... <G> IIRC, it seems to be the DEK unit as much as anything else. I thought someone posted that the siren unit neede...

jcobb

quickpicks wrote:I am pretty sure it's a VHF/UHF radio because it does have a few marine channels on it too.

I think you need to do a bit more studying on Motorola radios before you attempt to program this radio....

Jack

jcobb

According to my hi-band Syntor X book, you're good to go on DPL in it, too...

And since you can mix'n match TX/RX, you can go with DPL on TX and PL on RX or versa vice.

Jack

jcobb

It's sorta like wearing a t-shirt that says "I'm with stupid" and an arrow. Jack Based on the way they behave in the marketplace, I find that this an apt analogy. Jeff "Intellegence everywhere" indeed.... Yeah, considering that we're sitting in our fire truck, talking simplex to...

jcobb

I'm a simple kinda guy, so I'll give it to you like it was 'splained to me... When I turn on my XTS3K on the state trunking system, I see it transmit after it comes up and out of the self-check. If I turn it to a different zone/mode/TG, it transmits another short burst. (I just did this on my radio....

jcobb

Jim

IIRC, you can use the siren cable with the power and speaker leads cut off. I'm trying to remember where I got that info - might check Mike Ms site.

Jack

jcobb

I knew there was a reason why RT was a friend...

Glad to see you again, RT.

Jack

jcobb

$680+ from Motorola, and I've never seen them come up on eBay...and I've looked HARD. And they are not upgradable. That is, if you have an A or B board they can't be upgraded (even at the Depot) for the newer ones. The C and above have some different layouts on the boards - subtle, but they are diff...

jcobb

The HEX edit to make it a 'gov't' model is great. You don't have to keep that damn key thingy around, especially when using the speaker/mic. While you are into the RSS, you might want to consider changing the password to something other than the default. I did that on mine, so someone at a fire or i...

jcobb

I would assume then that the two crystals in the radio, green and red, actually represent channels 1 and 2 then? I did see mention in the programming for remote channel steering. So it would make sense if both channels of the Expo are being used. IIRC, "Remote Channel Steering" applies to...

jcobb

Also interested. Will solve a couple of problems for me.

Thanks.

Jack

jcobb

If I remember correctly (Bernie, correct me if I am wrong), both the Micor and Syntor pull channel select leads to ground. So if you have the diagram for the Micor, you can ohm out the channel select leads to go to the right head/control cable leads for the Micor. The Syntor used the pull-to-ground ...

jcobb

Thanks, John.

Jack

jcobb

A voltmeter, the fuse block, and the book on the vehicle is always a good start.

Jack

jcobb

On the regular non-Astro Spectra we've used a regular cable/head set-up on the second DB-25 (under the handle) with no problems. If I remember right, the volume control/mode rockers affect both heads equally. These were A5/7 heads. If you use the A9s, I would guess you would have to put the heads on...

jcobb

Will, Your "old" memory is dam close to my "old" book - the IF is 5.7 in the lo-band M01CNB Alert Monitor. Fxtal=Fcarrier-5.7/3 (below 42 MC it's plus 5.7) Depending upon where in the band you are trying to operate, it can require a 5.245 OR a 6.155 2nd osc. xtal. In his case, th...

jcobb

I'm carving your PM address into my work desk top as we speak.

For and from all us Spectra-heads out here in batland -

MANY THANKS (yes, I'm shouting)

Keep up the good work. I and many others appreciate it.

Jack

jcobb

Any hints or links? Looked but didn't find....

Jack

jcobb

Neither the leather or nylon cases I have from Mother Moto protect the display - only the keypad.

I can't get to them to get the numbers off of them (if they are on there in the first place).

Jack

jcobb

So if I read this right, you need the Astro Spectra, the Astro Siren/PA HLN1185D or higher, and the DEK HLN1241D or higher to make it all work.

Drat. I just bought 2 NIB HLN1241Cs.....'cuz I figured a bus is a bus is a bus....

Jack

jcobb

OK, so Astro has to be Astro all the way. I wonder if someone could post the Astro DEK numbers.....

Jack

jcobb

Clarification? The usual analog Spectra DEK (HLN-1241C) won't work with Astro Spectra radios? Or won't work with analog Spectras with the Astro siren/pa?

There have been some confusing posts on this in the past.

Jack

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