fpp enable

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scooby-70
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fpp enable

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hey there fellows,

I have a little problem; i have an xts-5000 uhf high with the q52 fpp option, however when i try to add the option from the items/menu list but it's not on the list. also when i go to the zone and channel assignment i see the fpp/protection tab and when i click on it and select the fpp enable i get the wiew only eye glasses icon. i tried every thing i could think of but nothing seems to work. the flashcode of my radio is 5A9008-101E87-8. if anyone know how i could get the fpp enabled i would greatly appreciated your assistance. thanks in advance. scooby-70
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Re: fpp enable

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It sounds to me like you are using CPS version 10 or 11.. Thats not a good idea with that flashcode... R09.xx.xx works the best with that flash, as it plays nice with Q52 only radios..

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Re: fpp enable

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if you have Q52, you MAY need the programming dongle, i don't remember exactly if its required with Q52 or Q53, but i know its definately not required with Q52 & Q53 together..
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Nope, you only need the programming dongle if the radio only has Q53..

Q52 only = No dongle

Q52 + Q53 = No dongle

Q53 only = Dongle required


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Q52 WITHOUT Q53 requires CPS9. If CPS 10 is used with Q52 alone it will disable/
erase/render unusable/kill the FPP capability.
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Like Tom said, CPS 9 ONLY. DO NOT USE CPS 10 or 11. You've been warned. 8)
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Re: fpp enable

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thanks for your help guys, your the best. DARN!!! I used the latest cps 11.00.00, is it possible to use the 9.00.00 or no? i heard that once you use a later version of cps it is not going to let you use the earlier one, but i'm not sure if that's true though. thanks again guys. 8)
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PM sent..

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Re: fpp enable

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You may have a problem with that???
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Re: fpp enable

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Here is what I would do, this should work.

First uninstall the new Rev 11 CPS.
Reinstall Rev 9 CPS.
Now you will need a codeplug from your radio that was read with Rev 9 CPS. If you don't have one saved I would just ask around for a copy of someone else's. You will need it to be the same band, flshcode, and read with CPS 9.
Then just write/clone the codeplug into your radio.

Good luck, and let us know what happens.


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Re: fpp enable

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I emailed him a R09.xx.xx plug for his radio this afternoon.. Have not heard back from him as to the outcome...

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Re: fpp enable

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On Astro 25 radios, I don't believe writing an older version codeplug into the radio will work - CPS checks the radio internal codeplug version value before writing - if it's higher than the source codeplug, it should reject it.
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akardam wrote:On Astro 25 radios, I don't believe writing an older version codeplug into the radio will work - CPS checks the radio internal codeplug version value before writing - if it's higher than the source codeplug, it should reject it.
Yup

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Any updates - I'm curious
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Re: fpp enable

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It's fixed..

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Re: fpp enable

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So it was fixed using that procedure that you recommended?
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Re: fpp enable

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I'm having sort of the same issue with my radio, a VHF version.

First off:

Flashcode is 5A0088-001D86-4
Host/DSP are both 10.00.0
I'm using CPS 11.00.0 to program the radio

I'm able to FPP zone 1, but CPS doesn't show the "FPP Enable" checkbox checked for that zone, and I am unable to select FPP enable for any of the zones (1 - 15).

I've tried deleting all but one channel in each zone as the help file suggests but still no good. I've tried deleting all zones and personalities and starting from scratch as well.

Any ideas how to get FPP to work on the remaining zones? Does the radio need to be flashed to Host/DSP 11.00.0 or whatever the latest is for this to work correctly? Or is my flashcode one of the hacked up ones with incompatible stuff?

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Re: fpp enable

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I am almost wondering if it is the flashcode giving you problems? Basically say you want to fpp zones 1-3 - have a conv personality point to each ch in zones 1-3 & turn fpp on in the zone menu.

Heard from a good source that M does not validate flashcodes with letters. Say your radio has a problem & needs a new command board - M will not give you the same flash since it has letters. Maybe only not validated to non govt?? Either way wondering if M figured a way to known if a radio has the Q52 feature when it 'should not' & lock the Q52 feature with newer cps?
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CPS 11 handles FPP differently than 9.x, and 10.x. You should read the help file in CPS 11 which describes how FPP is handled in 11. Usually if you switch CPS versions, you also should upgrade the firmware in the portable.

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astrousa wrote:...Heard from a good source that M does not validate flashcodes with letters. Say your radio has a problem & needs a new command board - M will not give you the same flash since it has letters. Maybe only not validated to non govt?? Either way wondering if M figured a way to known if a radio has the Q52 feature when it 'should not' & lock the Q52 feature with newer cps?
Hahahaa...

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Re: fpp enable

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Then I have no idea why people are having problems? My radio has Host/DSP 10.00 & works fine in CPS 11 with FPP enabled & works on zones 1-15
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Re: fpp enable

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astrousa wrote:Then I have no idea why people are having problems? My radio has Host/DSP 10.00 & works fine in CPS 11 with FPP enabled & works on zones 1-15
Then you're not looking hard enough. The FPP issue with newer revisions of CPS has been discussed at length:

http://batboard.batlabs.com/viewtopic.php?t=74287

In short, any flashcode with Q52 FPP only will not work correctly in CPS > R09. Any flashcode with Q53 (and optionally additionally Q52) will work correctly in CPS R10 and R11. Paired with the appropriate firmware, FPP has been changed so that you may have up to 15 FPP zones starting from Zone 1, and additional zones/channels beyond that (up to the radio's maximum capacity) as opposed to the previous 240 channels 15 zones, no more no less.
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