I tuned a single stage circulator and wondering which harmonic (2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th) to tune the harmonic filter for.
This is for my ham repeater in the 222 ham band. Which parameters most determine exactly what frequency to tune
this filter for?
Harmonic filter tuning after Circulator
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Harmonic filter tuning after Circulator
fineshot1
NJ USA
NJ USA
Re: Harmonic filter tuning after Circulator
Unless you have a special filter, usually they're just a lowpass filter with only one tuning adjustment and not a real sharp rolloff. I would tune it so that the loss starts to increase at 40-50% above your 222 Mhz frequency. Then you should have minimal loss at 222 Mhz.
Re: Harmonic filter tuning after Circulator
Thanks Al,
EMR model no 6451/F but i can not find any exact model no doc on it but i did find one that is
close to it physically and model no wise to it and it seems it may be a 2nd harmonic filter. See
very similar one below.
http://www.emrcorp.com/doc/uploads/d43a ... _02.14.pdf
EMR model no 6451/F but i can not find any exact model no doc on it but i did find one that is
close to it physically and model no wise to it and it seems it may be a 2nd harmonic filter. See
very similar one below.
http://www.emrcorp.com/doc/uploads/d43a ... _02.14.pdf
fineshot1
NJ USA
NJ USA
Re: Harmonic filter tuning after Circulator
I couldn't find the model number that you listed in my 2011 EMR catalog. Does your unit have one or two piston capacitors with caps for adjustment? One way to verify if you have a service monitor or a sweeper+spectrum analyzer is run a quick sweep to observe the passband chacteristics. If you do indeed have a harmonic filter you'll see a notch in the passband which will be frequency-adjustable with the one capacitor. In that case, I'd set it to reject the second harmonic of your 222 Mhz frequency. If you have two caps on the unit, it might be a line matcher model 6450(I use them here)series.
Re: Harmonic filter tuning after Circulator
Yes Al - one capacitor to tune(that's why i referenced the 6450) and yes there is a notch in the passband. ThanksAl wrote:I couldn't find the model number that you listed in my 2011 EMR catalog. Does your unit have one or two piston capacitors with caps for adjustment? One way to verify if you have a service monitor or a sweeper+spectrum analyzer is run a quick sweep to observe the passband chacteristics. If you do indeed have a harmonic filter you'll see a notch in the passband which will be frequency-adjustable with the one capacitor. In that case, I'd set it to reject the second harmonic of your 222 Mhz frequency. If you have two caps on the unit, it might be a line matcher model 6450(I use them here)series.
fineshot1
NJ USA
NJ USA
Re: Harmonic filter tuning after Circulator
All post circulator filters are tuned to twice the transmit freguency to suppress the even harmonics of the isolator.
Re: Harmonic filter tuning after Circulator
ok - happy new year folks and thanks for the help
the notch in the passband is now properly tuned for the correct frequency. Thanks
the notch in the passband is now properly tuned for the correct frequency. Thanks
fineshot1
NJ USA
NJ USA