Convert XTL5000 O5 to Remote

bnn121 · Post by **bnn121** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:50 am

I did a search for this on the board and even looked in the Knowledge Base for information on converting a Dash mount XTL5000 O5 head to a single remote mount head.

My MOL account does not list the kit number or even a parts breakdown. It shows the control cable only. I need the part numbers for the control head rear attachment and the drawer unit front attachment.

Or if there’s an actual kit number for this.

Thanks

Bruce1807 · Post by **Bruce1807** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:37 pm

6881098C35-O: ASTRO XTL 5000 H1804 Dash-to-Remote Mounting Kit Installation
6881098C34-O: ASTRO XTL 5000 H1803 Remote-to-Dash Mounting Kit Installation

REMOTE TO DASH MOUNTING KIT H1803
DASH TO REMOTE MOUNTING KIT H1804

The two manuals and the kits

bnn121 · Post by **bnn121** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:57 pm

Bruce1807 wrote:6881098C35-O: ASTRO XTL 5000 H1804 Dash-to-Remote Mounting Kit Installation
6881098C34-O: ASTRO XTL 5000 H1803 Remote-to-Dash Mounting Kit Installation

REMOTE TO DASH MOUNTING KIT H1803
DASH TO REMOTE MOUNTING KIT H1804

The two manuals and the kits

Thank You very much

Bruce1807 · Post by **Bruce1807** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:01 pm

The kit appears on MOL as
H1804A DASH TO REMOTE MOUNTING KIT should set you back around $250 depending on your pricing structure

bnn121 · Post by **bnn121** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:08 pm

Bruce1807 wrote:The kit appears on MOL as
H1804A DASH TO REMOTE MOUNTING KIT should set you back around $250 depending on your pricing structure

I just seen it...its $323.00 My List Price.

Post by Pj » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:28 pm

added to the kb, thanks!

Bruce1807 · Post by **Bruce1807** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:03 pm

The remote to dash runs at about $50

bnn121 · Post by **bnn121** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:55 pm

Just a follow up to this search.

The posted part number kits are ONLY for the

XTL5000 W4, W5 and the W7 series controls heads.

I ordered the

H1804A kit.

It arrived today and found it to be for the above listed control heads. Not for the O4, O5 or O7 series control heads.

So the search continues.

Bruce1807 · Post by **Bruce1807** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:40 pm

this is from the new manual. no kit number though

HKN6170A Cable, Remote Mount, 10 ft.
HKN6169A Cable, Remote Mount, 17 ft.
HKN6168A Cable, Remote Mount, 30 ft.
HKN6167A Cable, Remote Mount, 50 ft.
HKN6166A Cable, Remote Mount, 75 ft.
HKN6650A Cable, Remote Mount, 115ft.
HLN6961_ Accessory Connector Remote Mount
HKN4192_ Mobile Power Cable HiPower 20 ft
HKN6186_ Trunnion, Control Head Remote Mount
HKN6188_ Cable, Control Head Power and Speaker
HKN6190_ Cable, Front Remote Flex Assy for Transceiver
HKN6191_ Cable, Rear Remote Flex Assy for Control Head
HLN1454_ Remote Assy, Radio End
HLN6861_ Hardware Std Install
HLN6954_ Cover, Dust, Kit
HLN6970_ Wing Screw Torque Tool Kit
HHN4048_Hardware Kit, Transceiver Attachment
HLN6961_ Accessory Connector Remote Mount

Item No. Motorola Part No. Description
1 1564119H01 Housing, Remote Front
2 3264121H01 Seal, Moisture, Silicone
3 PMLN5038_TIB Board Assembly
HLN6895_
HLN6913_

4 0310944A14 Screw, Tapping (6)
* 3364474H01 Label, Housing (On Housing)
* HLN6954_ Kit, Dust Cover (Not shown)

1 HLN1467_ Control Head
2 HKN6191_ Flex Assembly
3 0310944A14 Screw
4 0764091H01 Retainer Bracket
5 0964098H01 USB Adapter
6 HLN6912_ CHIB
7 HLN6914_ CHUC
8 3264096H01 Moisture Seal
9 1564090H01 Rear Housing
10 0364332H02 Main Screws
Not shown HLN6954_ Kit, Dust Cover

Post by **escomm** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:48 pm

i'd suggest calling Motorola parts ID anytime you have trouble finding what you're looking for... they are usually very good about getting the info, though you might wait on hold for a few minutes while they dig around

bnn121 · Post by **bnn121** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:40 am

That is my next step. I seen from doing a Google search that if you order the XTL5000 O5 radio, there is a order option

Description Nomenclature APC Price
ADD: REMOTE MOUNT G67 514 $252.45

listed on this page

http://www.unitedradio.com/communicatio ... eadiii.pdf

They also show a Retrofit Kit Title, but no part number.

So, I'll give Parts ID a call and see if they can help me out.

Thanks

Thanks for taking the time looking that up...I sure would hate to order everything in this list that I might think is needed...then either having something I don't need...or not getting exactly what I need. But again, thanks for the list.

Bruce1807 wrote:this is from the new manual. no kit number though

HKN6170A Cable, Remote Mount, 10 ft.
HKN6169A Cable, Remote Mount, 17 ft.
HKN6168A Cable, Remote Mount, 30 ft.
HKN6167A Cable, Remote Mount, 50 ft.
HKN6166A Cable, Remote Mount, 75 ft.
HKN6650A Cable, Remote Mount, 115ft.
HLN6961_ Accessory Connector Remote Mount
HKN4192_ Mobile Power Cable HiPower 20 ft
HKN6186_ Trunnion, Control Head Remote Mount
HKN6188_ Cable, Control Head Power and Speaker
HKN6190_ Cable, Front Remote Flex Assy for Transceiver
HKN6191_ Cable, Rear Remote Flex Assy for Control Head
HLN1454_ Remote Assy, Radio End
HLN6861_ Hardware Std Install
HLN6954_ Cover, Dust, Kit
HLN6970_ Wing Screw Torque Tool Kit
HHN4048_Hardware Kit, Transceiver Attachment
HLN6961_ Accessory Connector Remote Mount

Item No. Motorola Part No. Description
1 1564119H01 Housing, Remote Front
2 3264121H01 Seal, Moisture, Silicone
3 PMLN5038_TIB Board Assembly
HLN6895_
HLN6913_

4 0310944A14 Screw, Tapping (6)
* 3364474H01 Label, Housing (On Housing)
* HLN6954_ Kit, Dust Cover (Not shown)

1 HLN1467_ Control Head
2 HKN6191_ Flex Assembly
3 0310944A14 Screw
4 0764091H01 Retainer Bracket
5 0964098H01 USB Adapter
6 HLN6912_ CHIB
7 HLN6914_ CHUC
8 3264096H01 Moisture Seal
9 1564090H01 Rear Housing
10 0364332H02 Main Screws
Not shown HLN6954_ Kit, Dust Cover

spectragod · Post by **spectragod** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:04 am

To build that with parts is over $500.

SG

bnn121 · Post by **bnn121** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:37 am

spectragod wrote:To build that with parts is over $500.

SG

How do you know which parts to order?

I haven't had a chance to call parts ID yet...to see if there is even a kit available? Crossing my fingers there is.

Bruce1807 · Post by **Bruce1807** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:38 am

I have a new ECAT arriving today or tomorrow. I will look for a kit

bnn121 · Post by **bnn121** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:46 am

Well...I just got off the phone with Parts ID...who identified the part number as

H1818A

Then he told me that this kit can only be purchased at cost and I would have to contact my area sales rep. So, I don't have a cost just yet...but I do have the correct Kit number...I hope.

Going to be calling the Sales Rep shortly...unless there is a MSS on here that can order that part...or at least give me a price.

Bruce1807 · Post by **Bruce1807** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:00 pm

Hmm
Nothing shows up in MOL

bnn121 · Post by **bnn121** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:37 pm

Bruce1807 wrote:Hmm
Nothing shows up in MOL

I was told by customer service that this item is what the call

Above Price Book

and can only be purchased trough your area Motorola Sales agent.

I have not called mine as of yet...

Victor Xray · Post by **Victor Xray** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:32 pm

I'm looking for the O5 remote kit as well, but for the high-power model, not dash. I called parts ID and they gave me two kit#'s

H1814 and H1824

The call taker couldn't narrow down for me which kit I needed. Can one of you dealers determine whether the H1814 or the H1824 is the complete remote O5 kit for high-power XTL ... and also confirm that the H1818 is the remote O5 kit for mid-power/dashmount model?

Also, if these kits don't include mics, I need the part# for the O5 palm mic too please. TIA!

bnn121 · Post by **bnn121** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:52 pm

There are two different "Dash to Remote" mount kits.

H1804 is for the old W series control heads.
H1818A is for the new Odyssey control heads.

I ordered the H1804 kit via MOL and when it arrived it did not have a microphone in it...just the parts to convert a dash mount XTL5000 W4, W5 or W7 type control head to a remote mount. I have since sent it back for a credit. I have been in contact with a Sales Rep from Motorola...who has passed me off to another sales rep...which I have not called yet to get a price/availability quote from them.

From the conversations I've had with MOL, Customer Service and a Motorola APB Sales rep, the part number H1818A is the correct kit number. But you have to order it thru a Motorola APB Sales Rep. What it has in the kit...is unknown to me. If you get a patient MOL rep...they will break the kit down for you...but theres apparently a few parts in this kit...and could take some time on the phone with them...if they are willing.

Post by **rogstew2** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:27 am

Does anyone have the pinouts for cable HKN 6169A?

motorola_otaku · Post by **motorola_otaku** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:09 am

Semi-old thread bump~

I went to order a TIB today (they're up to PMUN1036D now) and noticed that the description is now "TIB W/ AVR SFTWR." Do these now require a specific firmware version in the radio to operate?

spectragod · Post by **spectragod** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:09 pm

motorola_otaku wrote:Semi-old thread bump~

I went to order a TIB today (they're up to PMUN1036D now) and noticed that the description is now "TIB W/ AVR SFTWR." Do these now require a specific firmware version in the radio to operate?

No clue, I do have a few extra TIB's if you need any though.

Post by **akardam** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:44 pm

motorola_otaku wrote:Semi-old thread bump~

I went to order a TIB today (they're up to PMUN1036D now) and noticed that the description is now "TIB W/ AVR SFTWR." Do these now require a specific firmware version in the radio to operate?

Once upon a midnight dreary I had to update an AVR chip in an XTL control head under FSB10110 because the radio started spitting out false emergency activations after a flash upgrade. I would not be surprised at all if there was an AVR onboard the TIB as well. The description might mean that it has updated AVR software (just a wild guess, who knows how they come up with half the descriptions in the catalog).

spectragod · Post by **spectragod** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:11 pm

akardam wrote:
motorola_otaku wrote:Semi-old thread bump~

I went to order a TIB today (they're up to PMUN1036D now) and noticed that the description is now "TIB W/ AVR SFTWR." Do these now require a specific firmware version in the radio to operate?
Once upon a midnight dreary I had to update an AVR chip in an XTL control head under FSB10110 because the radio started spitting out false emergency activations after a flash upgrade. I would not be surprised at all if there was an AVR onboard the TIB as well. The description might mean that it has updated AVR software (just a wild guess, who knows how they come up with half the descriptions in the catalog).

Peter,

Thanks for that update, that actually answers another question that I had that came up during rebanding....Thanks.

Post by **escomm** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:31 pm

I called Motorola on this trying to figure out why they jacked up the price of the TIBs by 33% when they subbed to the D revision. They told me the AVR software is embedded on one of the Atmel chips, apparently the TIBs have always had them and we can credit their nomenclature team for the "updated" product description.

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